Step number 59,248 in becoming a proper German is getting yourself a .de email address. Having noticed that a lot of Germans email me from a web.de account, that’s what I decided to go for. There are two things you assume when you sign up for an email account called FreeMail:
You get an email account;
It is free.
I like free.
Register free! (image taken from giga.de)
You can imagine my surprise when, a month or so later, I received an invoice (Rechnung) from web.de for around €15. Assuming (clearly very dangerous in Germany) that it was a mistake, or possibly some optional extra that I was under no obligation to pay, I deleted it. A few days later, I received another one. About a week later, I got another one and, shock horror, the amount had gone up. It seemed they were serious about this payment malarkey.
Finding it hard to believe that every German with a .de account is paying for it, I emailed my old German teacher to ask if she was paying for hers:
What!? No, I don’t pay. Maybe you accidentally agreed to open up an account where you have to pay. They could have inserted some button that you can hardly see and pressed accidentally.
I heard a similar story from a friend. You should call and complain and tell them it wasn’t your intention to open up this account.
Crap. The one thing I dislike more than making phone calls in English is making phone calls in German. I decided to take the coward’s way out and, instead, replied to the email I had received and sent another message through the Customer Service page – not easy to find. I got a confirmation that they’d received my query and waited. When, after two days, I had got no reply, I knew I’d have to bite the bullet and call. Crap. (Again.)
The telephone number is buried somewhere in the site – I guess they hope that you’ll just give up and stump up whatever it is they’re asking for.
Did you think I’d lay down and die? Oh no, not I!
They hadn’t bet on the intrepidity of Frau von Grady, however. I trawled every inch of that blasted site and eventually found what I was looking for. The first victory. Amazingly, the automated system recognised my nervous muttering of my contract number – when had I signed up for a contract? – and I was put through to an actual person.
I explained the reason for my call.
Herr Helpful: Ah yes, I see that you’ve sent us two emails about this.
Me: (Grrr.) Why, yes, yes I have. Aaaaaaanyway, I didn’t sign up for a contract, I don’t understand why I’m getting invoices and I don’t want membership to anything. I just want the FreeMail account that I registered for.
Herr Helpful: I see. Let me just check… (tap, tap, tap)… yes, it seems that on the (insert random date) at (insert random time), you clicked on a button that activated your premium account.
Now, because of the way web.de is set up, with things moving around the pages, pop-up ads and various buttons that appear randomly, this is actually very possible. However, as I hadn’t handed over any bank details, given a credit card number or even double-clicked to confirm, I hadn’t given it a second thought.
Me: Well, that was a mistake. I didn’t mean to click anything. All I want is the FreeMail account.
Herr Helpful: OK, I understand. I’m cancelling your “contract” now. You won’t receive any more invoices from us.
Me: Great, thanks. But do I have to pay the previous invoices?
Herr Helpful: No, you don’t have to pay anything.
Me: (Phew.) Fantastic. WAIT! Can you please send me that in writing? (Because Germany…)
Herr Helpful: Yes, of course. You will get an email shortly.
As I sat clicking refresh and waiting for the confirmation, I contemplated how much entertainment value the staff at web.de would get out of my “recorded for quality purposes” German over the next 90 days. The email arrived. It was over.
Yeah, right. This is Germany. The following week, I received a “Mahnung” in my inbox. This is like a final demand before things get nasty. The next day, there was one in my letterbox.
Me: What’s “on the warpath” in German?
Manfredas: Auf dem Kriegspfad. Why?
Me: Because I’m on it. It all started a month or so ago. (Approximately four hours pass…)
Manfredas: (Snore.)
Unwilling to waste another second of my life on the web.de automated telephone system, I decided to go down the email route again. Two extremely harsh, most likely very rude and, even more likely, in hilarious German, emails were despatched.
On day three, I received a very apologetic email saying that there had been a mistake in the system, that everything was now resolved and that I wouldn’t receive any more invoices or demands. This time I didn’t bother with a reply.
A couple of days later, I received an email asking me to rate the customer service at web.de.
I printed it out and used it to wipe my Arsch. Maybe I should send it back to them after all – if I can find their postal address…
Yeah, I couldn’t believe that they had that level of detail – was tricky to get out of it as well! Thought Germany would have better protection really…
LOL! I absolutely hate pop-ups. My husband (German) keeps wondering why I haven’t transfered to an on-line bank for the efficiency that is written in the soul of every German. And I know exactly why.
I like my own bank (Commerzbank). It has an international office, and when there’s a problem or I need lots and lots of money, they’re nice to me, offer me cups of tea, and speak my language. An online bank can’t hear my posh tone or give me tea!
p.s. I opened my Email account years ago and it’s (wait for it), a gmx!
You’ve got a few years on me – I’m still making all the first-time-round mistakes! Had another run-in this week – I swear, if I have to do one more German’s job for them… GRRRR!
Honestly! They should pay us all! Remember Shakespeare’s 400 year anniversay last year? Well, the cinema near my house in Prenzlauerberg was having a Live showing with David Tennant and everything. Even Prince Charles came on stage and did a bit of a ditty! And did the cinema advertise it? Nope. Not a whisper! I only found out by accident and I was so pissed off!
So I ended up doing it myself on Facebbok & Twitter, and taking a bunch of friends with me. I was so annoyed as the cinema was empty, and I know for a fact that loads of people would have wanted to see it. If they had known!
I’m on a roll 🙂 Yeah, I didn’t think you’d really wipe your butt with the email. The joke would be on you then, not the web.de company. Still, I could imagine you sitting on the email just for your own satisfaction 😉
Bwahahahaha, I’m dying over here! So typically roundabout pain the ass. 🙂 I’ve heard from a few people here that I should switch to a .de, what with Google being Satan Incarnate and all, and next time someone asks why not, I’ll be directing them to this post. Long live gmail and a platform I (mostly) understand!
Ha ha! Yeah, I’ll be with Hotmail/Outlook probably forever. Just wish they’d stop dicking around with it – “improvements” make everything worse! And yes, I do NOT recommend web.de. You could give gmx.de a go – might be a blog post in it 😉
Hotmail is a name you don’t hear too often these days! I’m impressed you stuck with them this long. We’ll see about the gmx thing, not sure if I need that kind of excitement in my life, haha.
Ha! Yeah, maybe not – there’s enough excitement around right now. You probably don’t need to create it! Yeah, I’ve had this account for years and can’t really be bothered changing it now as it’s the address everyone has for me!
How frustrating. Yes, generally when one clicks on something that says ‘free’ one doesn’t expect to get an invoice. I think you handled it better than I would, I have far too much of a temper – and certainly couldn’t resolve it in another language!
I hate ALL phone calls. But I’m curious about this national email service. Do they promise not to sell your email data to businesses? Because apparently the commercial services have the right to do that (that’s why it’s “free”). Nothing is private any more. Or maybe privacy comes with the “premium” service.
I didn’t see any difference – I didn’t even know it WAS the premium service until I started getting invoices! Probably more things to click on to get you to part with your money – that’s about it! Total swindle 😉
Well, I’m impressed with your phone call making skills. I still hate making phone calls in German… especially ones where I have to say/spell my name. I guess there’s nothing like the threat of legal action to make you face your fears 😉
I have never had a German e-mail address. I did set up a gmail one when I was job hunting though – my old hotmail one didn’t seem very professional 😉 Most of the Germans I know have gmail as well now. Some have a gmx e-mail address. I didn’t realise web.de was still a thing!
Ha, I wouldn’t be overly impressed! Maybe you could call them and ask them for the recording – they should still have it for another 60 days or so 😉
Yeah, I used to be linda_does_nz@yahoo so I set up my Hotmail account for the same reason!!
I still use my very old virgin.net email, I have had it since dial up days, I know you are too young to remember listening to your computer beep and burp as it attempted to connect to the tintenet.
I can’t imagine trying to open an Italian E mail account! The E mail, like the shops probably wouldn’t work between the hours of 12:00 and 15:00 in the afternoon, or is it 17:00 in the afternoon?
Ha ha! I can imagine it would be a disaster! blacksheep@ARGH.it 😉 I still have my hotmail account but thought it might be nice to have a .de one for local work. Little did I know…
Yeah, it’s been a while since the last post alright! Been on the laptop so much working these days that I don’t have the energy to sit in front of it for half the evening too writing a blog post – until I get mad enough haha! Have a few ideas for upcoming posts though, never fear 😉
Totally! And that their system is accurate enough to track exactly when I clicked on that stupid button but not accurate enough to stop sending me demand letters after getting an official confirmation from the exact same system… Interesting, right? 😉
LOL – sorry for your troubles, but thanks to your fantastic punchline, this makes for a brilliant short story. Should be recommended reading for new immigrants to Germany. Well done – both for resolving the cock-up (I am totally with you – I *hate* making phone calls in English), and for this hilarious account.
Ha! Don’t say “account”… 😉
It was quite scary actually. I had visions of debt collectors showing up at the door! Also I’m going to be looking for a new flat soon so I need a clean SCHUFA – it was really stressful! Vodafone are next on my list 😉 But maybe I should send this post to web.de along with the “customer service” survey… 😉
Hahaha, oh god, yes – “account”. BTW – even *I* would break into a cold sweat and simultaneously feel red hot anger at having been goaded into a fee-incurring e-mail address.
Good luck with Vodafone, Schufa and the flat-hunting!
The anger was only overshadowed by the fear – a pretty common feeling here 😉 Some friends even said that this kind of “one-click contract” was illegal so I don’t know how they get away with it. I suppose they hope that people just won’t question it and pay… shitty way to do business! I requested my Mietschuldenfreiheitsbescheinigung today – there’s a word and a half! Or four words stuck together I guess 😉
“Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn’t do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sailaway from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.” ~ Mark Twain
This is downright frightening. Made me think of my payment information floating around the interwebs … GAH!
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Yeah, I couldn’t believe that they had that level of detail – was tricky to get out of it as well! Thought Germany would have better protection really…
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LOL! I absolutely hate pop-ups. My husband (German) keeps wondering why I haven’t transfered to an on-line bank for the efficiency that is written in the soul of every German. And I know exactly why.
I like my own bank (Commerzbank). It has an international office, and when there’s a problem or I need lots and lots of money, they’re nice to me, offer me cups of tea, and speak my language. An online bank can’t hear my posh tone or give me tea!
p.s. I opened my Email account years ago and it’s (wait for it), a gmx!
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You’ve got a few years on me – I’m still making all the first-time-round mistakes! Had another run-in this week – I swear, if I have to do one more German’s job for them… GRRRR!
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Honestly! They should pay us all! Remember Shakespeare’s 400 year anniversay last year? Well, the cinema near my house in Prenzlauerberg was having a Live showing with David Tennant and everything. Even Prince Charles came on stage and did a bit of a ditty! And did the cinema advertise it? Nope. Not a whisper! I only found out by accident and I was so pissed off!
So I ended up doing it myself on Facebbok & Twitter, and taking a bunch of friends with me. I was so annoyed as the cinema was empty, and I know for a fact that loads of people would have wanted to see it. If they had known!
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I would have liked to have seen that! Silly people… 😉
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Sorry. I meant to say Facebook…..
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Oh, I hope you didn’t really wipe your arse with the email … think of all that printer ink over your butt … 😉
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Ha, no, I didn’t really do it. My bum is very sensitive. Just like the rest of me 😉 You’re really getting caught up today!
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I’m on a roll 🙂 Yeah, I didn’t think you’d really wipe your butt with the email. The joke would be on you then, not the web.de company. Still, I could imagine you sitting on the email just for your own satisfaction 😉
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Nobody wants paper cuts in the butt 😉
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lmao …
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Bwahahahaha, I’m dying over here! So typically roundabout pain the ass. 🙂 I’ve heard from a few people here that I should switch to a .de, what with Google being Satan Incarnate and all, and next time someone asks why not, I’ll be directing them to this post. Long live gmail and a platform I (mostly) understand!
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Ha ha! Yeah, I’ll be with Hotmail/Outlook probably forever. Just wish they’d stop dicking around with it – “improvements” make everything worse! And yes, I do NOT recommend web.de. You could give gmx.de a go – might be a blog post in it 😉
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Hotmail is a name you don’t hear too often these days! I’m impressed you stuck with them this long. We’ll see about the gmx thing, not sure if I need that kind of excitement in my life, haha.
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Ha! Yeah, maybe not – there’s enough excitement around right now. You probably don’t need to create it! Yeah, I’ve had this account for years and can’t really be bothered changing it now as it’s the address everyone has for me!
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How frustrating. Yes, generally when one clicks on something that says ‘free’ one doesn’t expect to get an invoice. I think you handled it better than I would, I have far too much of a temper – and certainly couldn’t resolve it in another language!
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I hate ALL phone calls. But I’m curious about this national email service. Do they promise not to sell your email data to businesses? Because apparently the commercial services have the right to do that (that’s why it’s “free”). Nothing is private any more. Or maybe privacy comes with the “premium” service.
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I didn’t see any difference – I didn’t even know it WAS the premium service until I started getting invoices! Probably more things to click on to get you to part with your money – that’s about it! Total swindle 😉
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Yeah, I’m not sure what “premium” email would be, in any case.
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Well, I’m impressed with your phone call making skills. I still hate making phone calls in German… especially ones where I have to say/spell my name. I guess there’s nothing like the threat of legal action to make you face your fears 😉
I have never had a German e-mail address. I did set up a gmail one when I was job hunting though – my old hotmail one didn’t seem very professional 😉 Most of the Germans I know have gmail as well now. Some have a gmx e-mail address. I didn’t realise web.de was still a thing!
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Ha, I wouldn’t be overly impressed! Maybe you could call them and ask them for the recording – they should still have it for another 60 days or so 😉
Yeah, I used to be linda_does_nz@yahoo so I set up my Hotmail account for the same reason!!
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It’s great to have you back… where have you been?
I still use my very old virgin.net email, I have had it since dial up days, I know you are too young to remember listening to your computer beep and burp as it attempted to connect to the tintenet.
I can’t imagine trying to open an Italian E mail account! The E mail, like the shops probably wouldn’t work between the hours of 12:00 and 15:00 in the afternoon, or is it 17:00 in the afternoon?
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Ha ha! I can imagine it would be a disaster! blacksheep@ARGH.it 😉 I still have my hotmail account but thought it might be nice to have a .de one for local work. Little did I know…
Yeah, it’s been a while since the last post alright! Been on the laptop so much working these days that I don’t have the energy to sit in front of it for half the evening too writing a blog post – until I get mad enough haha! Have a few ideas for upcoming posts though, never fear 😉
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Sounds about right! And so comforting to know they keep track of all your data and actually send paper mail to your home address 🤤😡
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Totally! And that their system is accurate enough to track exactly when I clicked on that stupid button but not accurate enough to stop sending me demand letters after getting an official confirmation from the exact same system… Interesting, right? 😉
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I’ve got it all to come… so looking forward to these games…NOT 😦
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Looks like I’m well on the way to making ALL of the mistakes before you get here so hopefully you can avoid going down the same road!
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LOL – sorry for your troubles, but thanks to your fantastic punchline, this makes for a brilliant short story. Should be recommended reading for new immigrants to Germany. Well done – both for resolving the cock-up (I am totally with you – I *hate* making phone calls in English), and for this hilarious account.
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Ha! Don’t say “account”… 😉
It was quite scary actually. I had visions of debt collectors showing up at the door! Also I’m going to be looking for a new flat soon so I need a clean SCHUFA – it was really stressful! Vodafone are next on my list 😉 But maybe I should send this post to web.de along with the “customer service” survey… 😉
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Hahaha, oh god, yes – “account”. BTW – even *I* would break into a cold sweat and simultaneously feel red hot anger at having been goaded into a fee-incurring e-mail address.
Good luck with Vodafone, Schufa and the flat-hunting!
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The anger was only overshadowed by the fear – a pretty common feeling here 😉 Some friends even said that this kind of “one-click contract” was illegal so I don’t know how they get away with it. I suppose they hope that people just won’t question it and pay… shitty way to do business! I requested my Mietschuldenfreiheitsbescheinigung today – there’s a word and a half! Or four words stuck together I guess 😉
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